This ‘Game of Thrones’ Reddit Theory Claims the Season 8 Ending Is Actually What George R. R. Martin Wanted

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Alright, so you know how most of the internet pretty much loathed Game of Thrones episode 5, “The Bells,” where Daenerys essentially lost it and Cersei got the most subpar death of all time? Yeah, so while some fans are bemoaning showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss for “ruining everything” and others are coping by making memes, another fandom subset has realized that D&D may not actually be at fault for how things went down.

Reddit user u/sam1405 unearthed quotes from Game of Thrones original book series author George R. R. Martin that suggest he might have had something to do with this much-hated ending. Martin—who still has yet to write the last two books in the series, causing the TV show to pace ahead—apparently shared his key ending points with Benioff and Weiss years and years ago, so there’s a chance they were simply following the path Martin laid out for them.

Here’s the thread’s breakdown:

That was it. That was the scouring of the shire that GRRM intended to end with. Some of it didn’t make complete sense because the way we got there was very different to how the books will get there, but that was GRRM’s ending for sure. Although, he will likely change it now (that’s assuming he ever finishes the books).

The Northmen who we assumed as the good guys are rapists. The Unsullied who we assumed are the liberators kill unarmed people. Daenerys who we assumed would be free of the curse of Targaryen genes is a mad queen. Cleganebowl results in Sandor dying by (a fall into) fire, his worst fear. GRRM wasn’t subverting our expectations like D&D tried to in the rest of season 8, but he did want to twist a knife into our guts with a cruel reminder that in the world of ice and fire, there are no good guys and bad guys.

Episode 5 may be inconsistent with the rest of season 8, but that’s because the show writers didn’t follow all the steps in getting there. But as a book reader, I’m convinced that generally speaking, that was how George wanted this story to end. GRRM himself stated the show’s ending will be pretty damn similar to his own based on everything he told D&D.

I will now be downvoted into oblivion.

For the record, the user was not downvoted to oblivion and was in fact upvoted by a whopping 24,500, so clearly, people buy this. And it’s true that while Martin isn’t a key player in making the show (he doesn’t even read the scripts or see any episodes in advance), he has met with Benioff and Weiss to talk shop before. Martin even told Rolling Stone last month that he thought he’d be somewhat surprised by their show ending only “to a degree” because the major tentpoles will be THE SAME.

“I mean, I think…the major points of the ending will be things that I told them, you know, five or six years ago,” he said. “But there may also be changes, and there’ll be a lot added.”

See? The major ending points will be things Martin told them.

Well, there you have it.

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